Downloading a game after purchasing it - Haram?

[gengis]

I have my opinion on this but i am curious as to what other peoples thoughts on this are?

If I have purchased a game and given the developer their haq. If i then go on and download that game to rid myself of always online or platform DRM, do you think it is still haram?

To then further that. If i then go on and sell\give that game to someone else and delete the copy that i have so as to never play it again or download it again. Is the person i gave it to or the person giving it doing a haram action?

[thulfiqaar]

For the first question, I wouldn't think that would be haram to be honest, but I am no scholar (allah knows best).

as for the second question, I don't even dare answer that, as I have no clue.

*edit*
just to clarify i am no scholar and i havent actually done any research on this so dont take my opinion as a matter of fact

[Asad3ainJalout]

To tell you the truth. I may have pulled that off occasionally, especially when i lost my age of empires 2 cd. However as for the second one i would rather not do it. At least if you were caught you have an excuse.

[gengis]

I understand its an area you arent too sure of which is why you dont want to comment thulfiqaar, but i am curious as to why you think it would not be allowed? If you would rather not put personal opinion into it i understand so no problems

[thulfiqaar]

Actually thinking about the second question more, that's pretty much what PC gaming used to be like but with all the restrictions they are putting on now, you can't do that with all the games anymore. So for the second question I would have to say I'm confident it's halal.

It's like If I buy a movie I can then sell it on after I watched it. So no harm done there.

*edit*
just to clarify i am no scholar and i haven't actually done any research on this so don't take my opinion as a matter of fact

[Kreax]

For the first question, I would have to read the particular game's EULA, to make a judgement call.

In theory, you are entitled as an end user to back up your games via digital or physical means. So if you legally own a game, I don't see why you are not entitled to download a digital copy since the content itself is exactly the same. You still need a legit CD Key to play your game anyway.

However, if you are doing it to get around DRM... I don't know. I would imagine that that games with DRM have a section in the EULA that explains that one is not entitled to bypass DRM. The level of protection may vary from game to game though.

Regarding haraam or halal, I am not comfortable with using my opinions to justify a particular position. To me, this is a gray area, and if one needs to engage in it, it is their responsibility to be clear on the limitations and regulations put forth.

By purchasing or installing anything with a EULA, you claim that you are in agreement with their terms and conditions (ie. entering into a type of contract).

Regarding the resale/gifting of a good, I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. Each person is responsible for their own actions. I will not be held accountable for something that you do, and vice versa. So if you do something illegal with a legal copy of the game, and then give your legal copy to me, I had nothing to do with the illegality that you involved yourself in.

I hope this makes sense and isn't too drawn out.

[gengis]

jazakAllah khair for the answers, as i kind of hinted i already have an opinion on the matter but i was just curios for as to what other peoples views are on the matter. I have this piece of paper in front of me here with notes from some research similar matters, waiting for me to write and article, inshAllah soon

[Kreax]

You can put some good dawah in it. Allah and His messenger have ordered us to be true to our covenants, contracts, word, etc. You can look up the particular ayat, but you should say something about that. After all, we are Muslim Gamer Forumers.

Out of respect, could you please stay away from declaring something haraam or halaal unless you have links to scholarly articles and you are referring to an opinion? I'm sure you already plan on doing this, but it never hurts to double-check. I'm sure you are already well aware of my position about that matter, so I won't bore you with repetition. I just don't want you or anyone else to be held accountable to spreading a false, or unclear opinion on Allah and/or His messenger's behalf. Indeed, this be dangerous waters, so tread carefully bro.

And may Allah reward you for your efforts.

[thulfiqaar]

I just edited my posts in case it wasn't clear. the above is just my own opinion. If it's not my opinion, I will usually list that I have asked my dad or brother, but I haven't done so in this case.

[saqib7]

1. You payed for it do no harm in downloading it
2. You have stopped using its in a sense it not you property any more so no harm there.

[ZPE]

Sidetracking here: What do you think of a company that misleads you and sells you a broken game knowing fully well they can't fix it. You've wasted money on a game you can't play on one platform. Does that mean you can go download the game on a working platform or are you obliged to buy the same game again?

[thulfiqaar]

Sidetracking here: What do you think of a company that misleads you and sells you a broken game knowing fully well they can't fix it. You've wasted money on a game you can't play on one platform. Does that mean you can go download the game on a working platform or are you obliged to buy the same game again?

like Deadspace on the PC! the first one!

[ZPE]

Sidetracking here: What do you think of a company that misleads you and sells you a broken game knowing fully well they can't fix it. You've wasted money on a game you can't play on one platform. Does that mean you can go download the game on a working platform or are you obliged to buy the same game again?

like Deadspace on the PC! the first one!

I wasn't aware of that game having issues but I meant another, a certain GotY.

[gengis]

opinion ahead- get real advice!

my first instinct says no, as you purchased a certain type of product and you have given them the haq for that certain product.