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    Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby Fadi » 26 Nov 2011, 06:41

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    CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.44)
    Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.86)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99)
    Hard Drive: Seagate SV35 Series 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.90)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.86)
    Case: Sunbeam IC-EVO-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98)
    Power Supply: XClio 750W ATX Power Supply ($99.99)
    Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99)
    Monitor: Acer S230HLAbii 23.0" Monitor ($119.99)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99)
    Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.99)

    Total: $1309.97
    (Generated 2011-11-25 15:27 EST-0500)

    So... what do you think of the build? Is there anything you'd change?
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby thulfiqaar » 26 Nov 2011, 10:05

    motherboard: i only go for asus and gigabyte nothing else. I'm not familiar with ASRock so i can't really comment

    harddrive: no good, you need at least 7200 rpm otherwise it will SERIOUSLY slow down your gaming experience. In fact if you can afford Solid State harddrive just for your Operating system (just a small one) and then get another 7200 RPM harddrive for your games and stuff, I would do that if i were you. (ssd hdd have no moving parts, it's fastest hdd's out there)

    good memory choice just make sure that you motherboard supports that speed (ddr3 1600mhz). Make sure it supports it normal, as in not overclocked. some motherboards say "it can support 1600mhz (overclocked)". that is no good because you want that to be the norm

    graphic: i'm out of the graphic scene for a long time now so, unless I do research first I don't know how good that is. Hopefully someone else can advise on that.

    Power Supply: it's a really important part, and thats why you need to get a really good quality power supply. I never buy anything other than Corsair. But again, I don't know the brand XClio so maybe they are good but do they offer life time warranty?

    Monitor: make sure that the monitor is good for gaming. As in it should have fast response time, less than 5ms would be great (2ms, would be awesome)

    I hope that helps brother.
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby Fadi » 26 Nov 2011, 11:06

    Thank you for the advice. I've reworked it a bit. I've changed both the motherboard, power supply and the hard drive. I do have a small SSD I have sitting in a drawer, though it's a 4 GB drive... I don't think that's large enough for Windows 7 though, so I'll have to pick a larger one up in a few months.

    The monitors response time is 5 ms... the one I also have currently is 5 ms, though it's VGA only. Anything less then 5 ms is a bit out of my price range for now.

    Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.44)
    Motherboard: Asus P8P67 LE (REV 3.0) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.99)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99)
    Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($172.99)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.86)
    Case: Sunbeam IC-EVO-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98)
    Power Supply: Corsair 800W ATX12V Power Supply ($115.38)
    Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99)
    Monitor: Acer S230HLAbii 23.0" Monitor ($119.99)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99)
    Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.99)

    Total: $1389.54
    (Generated 2011-11-25 19:51 EST-0500)
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby gengis » 27 Nov 2011, 08:47

    Sorry to add some confusion here but ill add my 2 cents too.

    I have never been a fan of a single hard drive, i always buy multiple drives. Reason being is
    1) Reduce failure risk - If everything is on one hard drive and it failes, you lose everything at once.
    2) Speed - If OS is on one drive and games\files on another, then the hard drive isnt trying to run the os and game at the same time.

    these days hard drives are cheap enough that you could buy 2 * 1TB drives for the same price as 1 * 2tb drive ;) I have no preference for Seagate or WD - both brands have failed on me just as much the other.

    With memory, i dont believe there is that much difference between brands and non brands UNLESS your overclocking. If you can save money by buying a cheaper RAM at the same clock speeds then do it. Or just google the brand and model #, you are bound to find what someone else has to say about it. Just comes down to whether you have the budget to buy branded or not.

    Agree with Thulfiqaar about Power Supply. If that thing goes you are going to take out video cards and hard drives with it. Get a decent one and use it for this computer and the next and the next ;) One purchase lots of years of use.

    Monitor, again just google it and read what others have to say, that will give you a good idea. the one requirement for me these days with a monitor is lots of inputs, VGA,DVI, HDMI, display port. My one thing i would look for these days (if you want to keep the monitor for years to come) is Display Port. All the video cards are moving to that output so if you want to save upgrdes in years ahead, look for one with atleast DVI and displayport as you can always get a HDMI to DVI adapter for $2 ;)

    Video card : I always spend the most i can afford on that as its the be all and end all in a gaming rig. Check out this chart which will give you a good idea of what is around that performance and what the equivalent ATI card is. Then check the price difference http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011 ... ,2673.html

    On a motherboard im a bit different to thulfiqaar. I dont buy on brand, I look for how many SATA ports it has (i have lots of hard drives), on board sound (i dont buy seperate sound cards), how many usb and PCI slots it has. Looking at that Asus board it has everything and lots of it so i cant see anything wrong with it :)

    In regards to the drive, if you dont watch Blu Ray movies you can save a lot of money by just buying a standard DVD burner?

    on a final note, if its cheaper for you to buy a Windows 7 upgrade rather than the full version, let me know and I can give you a legit XP key brother :)

    I think that covers most of it :P
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby S4if » 30 Nov 2011, 00:17

    Anyone uses Solid State Drives? Does one have to have a certain type of Motherboard for it, or is having SATA connectors sufficient? Im reading up on this as I am thinking about constructing a pc instead of having a laptop...

    Installing a BF3 like game on the SSD would reduce the load times right? You'd still just install only Windows on the SSD and the game on the HDD Gengis?
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby saqib7 » 30 Nov 2011, 00:50

    Im planning on doing the same thing this forum has taken over us
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby thulfiqaar » 30 Nov 2011, 02:39

    @S4if there are multiple ways you can connect it. Check out this article for the differences in speed. According to the article the least latency is on a PCIe connection but they say it's cheaper to go for Sata. I don't see why you would resort to Sata when you can have it even faster on PCIe. When you buy a motherboard just make sure that 1 PCIe is available on there.

    http://www.storage-switzerland.com/Arti ... tions.html

    @Saqib7 you should bro, trust me you won't regret it. A good mate of mine made the conversion not too long ago from laptop to PC and he is very happy he did. Working on a big screen with a gaming keyboard and gaming mouse, it's just so much better than a laptop. No matter which laptop you get, PC will last longer and can be upgraded whenever it's needed.
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby saqib7 » 30 Nov 2011, 10:20

    I'm going to have to one peice at a time to save money
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby gengis » 30 Nov 2011, 21:16

    The motherboard you listed has 6GB sata ports on it, that is PLENTY of speed. Roughly 200mb-300mb a second! I really cant think of anything apart from high resolution game recording with no compression that would need that kind of data usage. I only have Sata3 and i can do it ;)

    I dont have SSD, i run 5 * 7200rpm SATA drives. Bascially I have
    OS+some storage stuff on one drive,
    games\programs on another
    backups\pictures\videos on the rest.

    That way when the OS is doing its thing, the game is doing its thing on another drive, then if i am recording the action at the same time, thats happening on another drive. So nothing is ever slowing down anything else ;)

    I have heard a lot of good things about the speed of SSD drives, but i have heard a lot of bad things too so im not sold on the idea yet. Mind you i havent read about them in about a year so the technology might have advanced, but back then they had a limited life span and limited writes\rewrites. So i decided I would wait for my next upgrade cycle and see if the tech had improved. If you have the money go for it, if not, i would save it ;)

    Plus if you really want, you can run multiple SATA drives in RAID and almost double your speed that way. You lose half the space but its one option to think about too :)

    one last thing, if you are looking at getting it part by part, start with the hard drives asap. Prices are going up as we speak due to the floods in Thailand!! I read they expect them to stay higher for about a year ;)
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby saqib7 » 30 Nov 2011, 22:50

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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby Fadi » 08 Dec 2011, 04:15

    So I ordered everything yesterday except for another hard drive. With the exception of the CPU (which just shipped today) and the motherboard (which is the one thing I didn't order from Newegg), everything else will arrive today.

    Besides the price issue, I don't need another hard drive because I found 2 more SATA drives sitting in a drawer... another 1 TB as well as a 32 GB.
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby saqib7 » 08 Dec 2011, 04:56

    congrats hope you like your new rig
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby thulfiqaar » 08 Dec 2011, 06:58

    Nice! that means pretty soon we can start talking about how uber the PC race is! :P
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby AhmadSA » 08 Dec 2011, 07:04

    thulfiqaar wrote:Nice! that means pretty soon we can start talking about how uber the PC race is! :P

    Oh shut up!
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    Re: Ordering parts for a new PC this week

    Postby saqib7 » 08 Dec 2011, 08:36

    AhmadSA wrote:
    thulfiqaar wrote:Nice! that means pretty soon we can start talking about how uber the PC race is! :P

    Oh shut up!


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