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    Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshAllah

    Postby gengis » 05 Jul 2012, 00:31

    The night of the Emancipation, this Holy Night occurs on the 15th of Sha’ban. It is during this great month that Allah Almighty takes the account of His creation. This month should not go unnoticed. The Holy Prophet (may Peace and Blessings be upon him) would fast most of this month and after sunset on Laylat al-Bara’at. If there is anyone who seeks forgiveness or if there is anyone who is in need or if there is anyone in pain and seeks help the time between sunset and sunrise on the Night of the Emancipation is recommended to ask for forgiveness; provision; healing and help. Shaykh Abdul-Kerim Efendi has said, “When the days are approaching for the night of Berat (night of calculations, accounting night) spend that night in worshiping to your Lord and spend the day in fasting. Then you will find Allah (subhana wa ta’ala) forgiving you and forgiving your sins.”
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby saqib7 » 05 Jul 2012, 00:45

    gengis wrote:The night of the Emancipation, this Holy Night occurs on the 15th of Sha’ban. It is during this great month that Allah Almighty takes the account of His creation. This month should not go unnoticed. The Holy Prophet (may Peace and Blessings be upon him) would fast most of this month and after sunset on Laylat al-Bara’at. If there is anyone who seeks forgiveness or if there is anyone who is in need or if there is anyone in pain and seeks help the time between sunset and sunrise on the Night of the Emancipation is recommended to ask for forgiveness; provision; healing and help. Shaykh Abdul-Kerim Efendi has said, “When the days are approaching for the night of Berat (night of calculations, accounting night) spend that night in worshiping to your Lord and spend the day in fasting. Then you will find Allah (subhana wa ta’ala) forgiving you and forgiving your sins.”


    which Quranic Ayat did you get this from?
    Plus the Hadith is very weak!
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby thulfiqaar » 05 Jul 2012, 00:58

    Here we go again lol
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby ashes999 » 05 Jul 2012, 01:57

    Easy there, homies. Lets understand this from a comprehensive, pluralistic perspective, as we should.

    There's a long, detailed, comprehensive study of this issue here: http://islam.stackexchange.com/question ... mid-shaban

    The summary is: there is no authentic hadith on this topic. This is the conclusion of shaykh Ibn Rajab, who needs no introduction.

    Therefore, if you're going to participate, knock yourself out. So, there's some difference of opinion, and some of us don't believe it's part of our deen to do this.

    End fiqh fight, now lets move on to other things.

    So gengis , what kind of activities are popular on this night in your area/neighbourhood/family? This is a new thing for me. Is it just solitary worship? Tahajjud?
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby Aseramy » 05 Jul 2012, 03:24

    Berat candles bring health and happiness're Happy
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby SnakeXT » 05 Jul 2012, 06:38

    Its a win if you're seeking reward and forgiveness from Allah. When is it then? Tomorrow?
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby gengis » 06 Jul 2012, 03:04

    You will have to check local times snakext but we had it in Australia.

    Berat candles bring health and happiness're Happy


    What the brother was trying to say is in Turkish the word Kandil is used for holy nights, so i think thats where candle came from ;)

    On a side note, i have received some pm's about me posting stuff like this. To clarify, some dont see the night as anything significant, while whole other parts of the Muslim world do. Its one of those things that if you decide to do it cool, if not cool. The way i see it is if someone picked up the Quran and read a few pages then alahamdulillah, if someone woke up for tahajjud, alhamdulillah. No harm was done.
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby SnakeXT » 06 Jul 2012, 06:53

    Also those who don't believe in it should stay quiet. Why make it known you don't believe it? To discourage others from not doing it?
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby thulfiqaar » 06 Jul 2012, 08:01

    Gengis is not saying something is haram etc. but rather he believes that it's a good time to do some more islamic stuff than normal.

    I would understand it if he said something is haram and then you raise your voice or protest, but he isn't so if he believes that then let him do a bit more prayers and quran and duah.

    Surely you wouldn't discourage a brother from spending more time on his deen. So please let's just respect eachothers opinion but refrain from saying something is haram etc. etc. if there is ikhtilaaf
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby saqib7 » 06 Jul 2012, 08:42

    SnakeXT wrote:Also those who don't believe in it should stay quiet. Why make it known you don't believe it? To discourage others from not doing it?


    So I don't believe you should drink and kill people, therefore that gives me right to be quite and let it be!
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby houenheim » 06 Jul 2012, 09:27

    saqib7 wrote:So I don't believe you should drink and kill people, therefore that gives me right to be quite and let it be!


    Not sure why people are getting so heated up about this thread. saqib7 Laylatul Barat is found to be a weak hadith, so we cannot say it's haram/impermissible, because it is recollected in Tabari. Although the hadith is weak in nature, it cannot be used to make a legal holy day of Shab-e-barat, but we can't stop anyone from doing it as long as it's not fallen into the category of fabricated ahadith.

    According to the very words of Imam al-Nawawi, “The ulema have said, both the fuqaha, the hadith experts and others is that it is permitted, rather recommended to act in virtuous deeds, in acts of exhortation and warning [f. when you encourage something or warn against it]. It is permitted to act upon weak hadith as long as they are not fabricated”.

    source: http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?HD= ... 77&CATE=91 (this was a good read btw!)

    Also, equating this spiritual tradition to to drinking and killing is extremely unfair. Those two are perfectly and clearly described in the Qur'an as haram and have no relation to this issue. It's disproportionate to compare these two things.

    I personally don't celebrate shabebarat but my parents do. I don't think it's right to tell someone not to do it because, after all, they're doing ibadah and it's tough to tell someone not to, but at least they're doing it under some basis of Islam. If it was celebrating the birth of the Prophet (SAW), it would be different, but that's another discussion :grin . Allahu'alam, this advice goes to me first before anyone else.
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    Re: Tonight is Laylat al-Bara’at, less games more Deen inshA

    Postby thulfiqaar » 06 Jul 2012, 09:32

    Thread is locked until a solution is found. Please refrain from making this personal, and remember we are all brothers in Islam.
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