Playing game which got soul in it are haram or not?

[printf]

Okay well ya. In islam it is haram to draw living creature, you know stuff which as a soul or think and live, i mean animals and human and much more stuff like weird monster.

so well, is it okay to play game which contain anything which got a soul?



thank you for your answer!

[thulfiqaar]

Someone already asked this in a different thread. Anyway, I have asked my father and brother about this (both are sheikhs) and the answer I got is drawing things that have a soul is not haram.

Second, how is drawing haram but pictures and movies halal?

Third, game characters whether they are portraying/mimicking something that has a soul doesn't mean they actually have a soul. Especially when it's fiction/fantasy.

We aren't allowed to draw pictures of the prophets that I know, but everyday people like you and me is fine.

[Dabbaba]

I'm not sure if games fall under the same ruling or not. I am not replying to answer that question.

My concern is with @thul'fiqaar 's reply. There are many hadeeths that were mentioned in a thread in the graphics section about tasweer (picturing) and that it is haraam. One example is The Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Every image maker will be in the Fire.”

The reason drawing/sculpting is different from photographing and "videography" is in the science itself. Photography and videography are the process in which the user captures images or shadows of light, while the drawer/sculptist is creating an image from scratch. The fundamental difference between them is one creates while the other captures what is already created.

Jazakallahu khairan brother @printf for the question but I advise you this: when you seek an answer to a question and you are truly mukhlis and really seek the truth, then you should ask those of knowledge. Allah says in the quran, {then ask those who possess the Message (Ahl adh-Dhikr) if you do not know} [Soorah 21, Aayah 7]

If it was your intention to inspire a discussion, then I would understand. But it makes no sense to me to come to a group of people who play games and ask them about its ruling. We will obviously try to justify our actions. If your intention was to open our eyes to something that has a shubuha in it, then I thank you. I am going to be doing a lot of learning on this subject.

Jazakallahu Khair and may Allah guide you to the answers you seek.

[Asad3ainJalout]

If i recall correctly it also has to do with intention, if you are drawing someone who is real thats bad, but if you are drawing for the sake of drawing thats fine. BTW do not quote me on that. i have no source nor could i find it so the chances are its a traditional thing i heard.

[thulfiqaar]

My concern is with @thul'fiqaar 's reply. There are many hadeeths that were mentioned in a thread in the graphics section about tasweer (picturing) and that it is haraam. One example is The Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Every image maker will be in the Fire.”

The reason drawing/sculpting is different from photographing and "videography" is in the science itself. Photography and videography are the process in which the user captures images or shadows of light, while the drawer/sculptist is creating an image from scratch. The fundamental difference between them is one creates while the other captures what is already created.

@Dabbaba as @ashes999 has said in the other thread. 'It's an issue of ikhtilaaf.' I trust that both my brother and father want the best for me and both of them are sheikhs. They explained to me that the Quran and the hadeeths are referring to that you shouldn't make Idols/statues, but has nothing to do with drawing.

On a seperate note, I would like to give my own personal opinion. the following is my own personal opinion not some islamic ruling. I don't understand why people do believe drawing something that has a soul is haram, especially when people try to differentiate between movies and pictures and drawings.

Because then it bring the following questions up:

1. What about movies that record what is real, but then it is altered for special effects or to make one look more appealing by getting rid of imperfections? (photoshop is included in this question)

2. What about cartoons?

3. What about CGI Cinema?

4. Is there a difference (when it comes to it being haram) between digital art and hand drawn pencil art/sketches? If so why?

I don't follow rules blindly, in order for me to be convinced that something is haram, I will ask my brother and father whether it is haram and then ask why it is halal or haram and why there is ikhtalaf on the subject.

Islam as I understand it, makes perfect sense and it is logical. Unless someone can provide an explanation to me that can convince me that drawing things that have a soul in them is haram , I will continue believing that it is halal.

I don't think I will ever understand why anybody would say that it is haram. Just as I would never understand why anybody would say that it is haram for women to drive a car, Or that "You have to obey the oppressor even if he flogs you and takes your wealth". But what I can do is understand that you are only trying to please Allah and follow the straight path that you believe in. I accept it, as there are different islamic schools of thoughts and different opinions and I respect that, but I will always try to follow what I believe is the right path.

At the end of the day, Allah knows best.

As for the OP I hope that answered your question. I hope that this won't be your only post.

[ashes999]

@printf it seems the reason behind the prohibition is that it may lead to shirk; see tafseer on how the first shirk in the world came about (by drawings of pious people in the time of prophet Nuh, alayhi salaam).

Allahu a'lam, I don't think there's a problem; I even asked three different shuyookh if drawing for game development is okay, and they all said of course, no issue at all (the best answer was "that's not even tasweer").

May Allah guide us all to the truth. Islam is simple, honestly, and sometimes we overcomplicate it. But it's good that we do so out of taqwa -- trying to arrive at the truth.

P.S. http://asktheshaykh.com/

[gengis]

I am giving the answer in way in which i witnessed something so inshAllah it will help. I know someone who has mashAllah been given the skill of drawing. He asked an Imam if it was ok to develop that skill. The answer he received was that it was better he did not use that skill to draw characters\cartoons but to use it to draw natural scenery and calligraphy. That is as much as i am willing to input as i do not wan to give an answer i dont know about.