Regarding madd, I thought the rule is that for Madd Muttussil, 4, 5, 6 counts, but if you stop on it, it must be 6. Also for madd munfassil, the rule is similar in that it is 2, 4, 5, 6 counts except when you stop, then there is 0 extension (because you lose the reason for madd). They key is moreso...